2. Is it enough to justify the sheer number of ranks Platinum has over D/P on this list? I heard that just throwing money at the problem wouldn't solve the issue, but I disagree, this is exactly the kind of issue that gets resolved with resources and timely management. I agree with Platinum being ranked higher, but D/P deserves to at least be ranked over X/Y and the original Ruby/Sapphire in my book. Its has like 80% different mechanics (most obvious is catching/training pokemon) setting it in Kanto doesnt really change that. Pokemon go is not a mainline title even the creator of it has gone on record to say so. Trainer Hordes: A new variation of the Horde Encounters is introduced in this game, however. (also have a ton of end game content so you can catch everything up to the X/Y generation). The bias is real palpable. Pokemon Sun. “Crystal is was the ultimate version of Gold and Silver.” Ranks Crystal BELOW Gold and Silver. Awful, poorly-written list. Feature: 'Breaking' Shrines Was Maybe The Coolest Thing A... Join 1,143,507 people following Nintendo Life: © 2021 Nlife Media, partner of ReedPop. Diamond and Pearl are at the bottom, but Platinum, which is essentially the same game, is right near the top. 1. Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! A Giratina with a perfect move set is almost impossible to defeat. I've been having difficulty understanding you guys' lists recently. @Aloy Really? Next up is Pokémon X and Y, the first Pokémon pair for Nintendo 3DS. At least other soul less big Buster's in the industry like call of duty make an effort to look pretty, game freak can't even be bothered to do that much. Sun and Moon had a better story, more likeable characters in general, actual challenge if you didn't grind, a surprising rival, a few more "creepy" misteries like the ones from previous games , a bigger map, better villains and simply added more to the goodness of X and Y. I really don't get why those games are hated considering that they are among the best in terms of story ( at least characters grow and are more developed than in most entries) and the introduction in every pokemon game is slow. All I ever wanted was a Pokemon MMO that gave us a vast world to get lost in hunting the beasts and making new friends. And I'd say XY and Sun/Moon as well. I fully agree with the top two, though we are doomed if Pokemon Sword and Shield are worse than Sun and Moon. Pokemon following you adds nothing - it's just an aesthetic difference. Also I have a feeling that they might not be compatible with later, mainline games, but that remains to be seen. Not only did they innovate even further what we had experienced before, but they perfected what came before, hands Effing down.Best will always be: HG and SS, Platinum and Black/White 2. While I can understand why Yellow could be ranked below R/B (although I personally consider Yellow the superior version), ranking games that are clearly upgraded versions of their predecessors (and on the same system) below said predecessors is just nuts! XY are so much better. I really don't agree with this list. The first spot is well deserved. Why it’s 2020 because my website actually has a pokemon delta emerald. Now this list does have issues with ranking Ultra S/M and Yellow below their original versions, but there are legitimate reasons why those enhanced versions are ranked so much higher than their basic editions. That's the only way I can explain why Crystal ranked a bit lower than G/S and HG/SS but Platinum did way better. and Let's Go, Eevee! At least Sinnoh had a postgame. I still think it's the best set of Pokémon games to date (followed by HG/SS and B2W2).And it's a bit weird how Platinum is so much higher up than DP (as somehow the minor adjustments elevate it from the least good to the third best somehow), yet USUM is rated lower than SM. This list is just buns, plain and simple. Before I read this - HGSS better be the top spot. Black/White, Ruby/Sapphire, and Sun/Moon were pretty big disappointments for me though. But the one thing no one can dock you for is putting heart gold/soul silver at the top. This list is trash. @graysoncharles Admittedly, I pulled the LoZ comparation because it was the first thing that came to mind. I enjoyed it so much that I beat Sun and then also beat Ultra Sun which I would NEVER imagine myself doing. Crystal lost a lot of it's unique features to HG/SS. Features: National Dex with over 800 Pokémon up to generation 7. 10. Ultra Sun is much harder than Sun/Moon near the end it is really hard It’s criminally hurtful how low u rank diamond and pearl but I suppose platinum makes up for it. It's still an excellent game – as all mainline Pokémon games are – but the lack of a gameplay revamp and the underwhelming audio-visual aspect did hurt it somewhat. @BulbasaurusRex *4th water based TM. As for lets go not sold on it yet and at the momment it doesn't look like it plays as good as Ultra Sun/Moon. 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Best Supporting Characters From Pokemon Games There's two kinds of effective teams that you can make: a team of many Pokemon types (fire, water, grass etc.) Imo Platinum would probably be the best if it was remade with slightly better than SWSH graphics, in gen 8 ofc, with Battle frontier more like Emerald's (7 facilities instead of 5, all with their unique visual style. It also goes to show what happens when a game is made by people who are passionate and care about more than just maximizing profit. Not exactly regarding order because since you're making a list, you're the one who decides where each entry goes, but justifications and priorities seem a little odd to me. We deliberated for many hours here at Nintendo Life Towers to decide the order of these turn-based RPG collectathons. The only quotes I find where he even touches the topic is the IGN interview where he states these would probably be the last Pokémon RPGs he would be directing. However, a hurricane and extended power outage moved me over to, I believe, Leaf Green. It truly felt like a fabulous closing and last hurrah to the DS era. But I also understand these games are meant to be entry points for those new to the series and a reintroduction for those who bolted before G/S/C. @Darthroseman No HMs was the ONLY major improvement made in Sun/Moon. Diamond and pearl should be higher. B/W are the best games in the series I've played by a long shot, between the fresh, almost full on rebooted vibe of the game, surprisingly realistic characters, and the more involved, JRPG-esque way the story unfolds. This game has over 20 new features in-game! Ranking such awesome games proved a lot more difficult than we first anticipated, given how many of them end up being among the best games of their particular generation. This is an expanded version of the seventh generation Sun and Moon, and includes new story elements, Ultra Beasts, and new forms for the Legendary Pokémon Necrozma. The Pokémon series lost me when entering the DS/3DS era, though I played most of the ones released on those platforms. Hard to say which one though. Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver in lst place? Why? I loved the feature of having a Pokémon companion follow you. He says RPGs. I'm having fun with it. games should definitely be last since they are not truly mainline, which is the whole point of the list in the first place I thought. I'm not gonna say your taste is wrong, but I am gonna question how Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon AREN'T better than Sun and Moon. @Krisi What's interesting is that I read a pretty interesting article that sought to clarify the terms mainline and core and how it defines these games. Interesting list regardless, it's always great to see varying opinions. The description you give for each game is horrible. However, a large rank jump is certainly still valid in this case. Good job guys. Not impossible to do, I recall either BW or B2W2 had a Hard mode but you had to beat the game to unlock it (As well as own both versions). But only for a few seconds until you get to the next new area thats fresh in my head amongst other things I have said previously closer to when they released. MaKeS sEnSe! "and both the visuals and audio weren't particularly well-received" By who ? Gold bottle caps and easier BP with surfing (usum) to make your pokemon's stats better. But in all seriousness: I actually DO miss physical keyboards on smart phones sometimes, although it would of course look horribly awkward and out of place. @WhoaManWtF As always with lists, what's "proper" depends entirely on the perspective of the list maker and whether or not you match up with it. When Sakurai pulled the plug on trophies for Smash no one batted an eye because it was obvious they were putting a lot of work into the graphic overhaul and balancing of the game. Pokemon Sun/Moon was the lowpoint of the series for me. I came to Pokemon late, 2012. Mostly agree to the list. GBA Rom/CIA Rom: Download Pokemon Glowing Garnet v8.0r4 1/100 Shiny Rate Completed by ecnoid. Effect Generation V. Fire Pledge inflicts damage.It has a regular power of 50.. The one thing I don't get why Platinum and Emerald are so much above the originals, while Yellow, Crystal, and Ultra are lower than the ones they build upon.I understand if you rank all of them lower, because sure, they didn't bring as many new things to the table, and I understand if you rank them all higher, because they are all technically the best version of those games, but ranking some higher and some lower just doesn't make any sense to me. this was a surprisingly well made list. It introduced the sixth generation of Pokémon, fully 3D visuals for the first time in a mainline Pokémon game, and allowed you to completely customise your trainer's appearance. @greengecko007 I agree on the PSS. There are definitely some nice new features there that provide more of what you love from Sun and Moon, but it's not enough to bump it above the other mainline Pokémon entries. I only ever liked the first game, Red/Blue. I am serious. For the first time ever, you could play over the internet and battle other trainers globally, or use DS Wireless to play locally. And who knows where I will put Sword and Shield. Top three should be Platinum, HGSS, and BW2 in that order. Kind of nonsensical to have a superior version of Gold and Silver in Crystal at #4 while Gold and Silver themselves are #2. That implies to me that these are considered, at least by him, in line with the main series. @AlexSora89 Hm, no idea what my avatar has to do with Pokemon and "placement", so I'm kinda curious to find out what's what... opening it up to see diamond and pearl / ruby in sapphire at dead last.... smh. This debate remains all in good fun. The game speed is sped up, it has extra story elements with a really cool Reverse World area, it has the return of the Battle Frontier, much better Pokémon distribution, etc. It is certainly annoying to have to spend so much time on the water, and then to make it even worse they added a 3rd water-based HM (which thankfully was never seen again), and unlike Surf and to a lesser degree Waterfall (until the physical/special split made Waterfall nearly just as viable a move in future games like OR/AS), Dive was practically worthless as a battle move. Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment... 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